I did receive a call and participated in the survey. I thought the questions covered a wide range of issues that could affect a person's feeling on supporting a referendum. Some may disagree with the money the district spent on the survey, but the school board's two primary responsibilities are the financial stability of the school district and the achievement of students. In the absence of adequate state funding and given the current economic conditions, they need to take action. This survey will provide them with the information to do just that.
I too was part of the survey; however, I disagree with your assessment of the value. The questions were posed similar to most political polling where they have a prescribed response they want to achieve. That was the reason they did not allow any answer but Yes or No as far as whether you would be more or less in favor of the referendum. There was no middle ground. I thought they were scare tactics at best to see which questions provided the most opportunity to pass this new tax increase.
While I am all for quality education (as I have four children in the District), I am concerned about the short and long-term effects of passing such an increase when people barely have enough money to pay their bills (if that). Operating levies and recently passed referendums in neighboring Districts have not proven effective in improving the quality of the education received. As recently reported by the state, the test results show that Bell Plaine, Prior Lake-Savage and New Prague were among the 10 worst in proficiency. So how does more money equate to better education? It does not! Many Districts in the state receive far more funding than Jordan on a per pupil basis, but many of those Districts also have some of the poorest scores and highest dropout rates. Money does not equal success!
I believe parents needs to take a more active role in their children’s education, freeing up some of the time the teacher has to spend working with slower learning children. Not every student progresses at the same pace; however, we expect the teachers to teach all students at the same level. Society does not allow the discipline of troubled students and the teachers have to deal with them, while affecting the education the rest of the students should receive. I have volunteered at the schools and I see what it is like within the classrooms. When I went to K-12 school, I dealt with split shifts and large classrooms while still getting a quality education. We had teachers that could discipline a student and take them out of class as necessary. We had Special Education for the students needing extra help, without it affecting the education of the other students. So what has changed? The arguments over more money have been going on for as long as I have been alive and I am sure much longer than that. I can tell you that the problem and the solution starts at home with the parents!
When are we as parents going to start taking responsibility for our children and their education?! This does not have to equate to higher taxes and spending more money in all cases. If I struggled as a child, my parents were there to help me, tutor me, guide me, protect me, and instill a solid foundation of responsibility and self-motivation (you get out of life what you put into it!). I do not see the same culture in society today. I am not judging people in any way; however, society has changed with a lowering of standards in morals, ethics and values. We live in a society that blames everyone and everything else for our problems. This is being taught to children so each new generation has expectations that “they are owed”. Both my wife and I work; however, the minute we get home from work we spend time with the children. During school, that means reviewing homework, helping them study, and simply spending time together as a family. Parents have to take some of the responsibility for their child’s education. The school system is a tool to assist in that process; it is not a replacement for the parent’s involvement.
I am not sure where the information came from stating Belle Plaine, New Prague, and Prior Lake are among the worst 10 schools in proficiency in the state. Using the information provided in a spreadsheet by the Minnesota Department of Education, these three school districts were not in the bottom ten. Their results when you combine reading across all the grades tested are:
Prior Lake - top 24 percent in MN
Jordan - top 39 percent in MN
Shakopee - top 45 percent in MN
Bell Plaine - top 54 percent in MN
We also cannot fairly compare the costs of operating a school system in 2009 with those from years ago. The number of unfunded mandates from the federal government has increased, the subsidizing of special education out of local money has needed to increase because of a lack of state and federal resources, the need to prepare students for the 21st century with 21st century technology puts pressure on the system, and an expectation that all students receive additional instruction to meet state standards are just some of the differences.
The Jordan School District is not seeking a referendum because they have this uncontrollable need to spend. They are seeking it because it is the only way they have to raise the revenue necessary to maintain a basic educational program. The need is clear.
Governor Pawlenty has done a good job in convincing people that taxes are bad. Unfortunately, the services they pay for are investments in the future of our communities and the quality of life we want for our children.
The referendum is about more than a tax increase and I hope many people in this community take a deeper look at what it really is for - an investment in our children and the community they live in.
The overall financial problem in public schools and the reason why each school in the state of Minnesota is asking local taxpayers to pass a referendum is because the legislature is shifting more and more school district funding to the local districts.
Schools are being asked to do more and more each year, and have not been given the finances to keep up. This is called an unfunded mandate. An unfunded mandate is where the state and federal government requires schools to provide certain services, but then does not provide 100% of the funding to do so. Examples of unfunded mandates at JPS are special education, transportation, testing, phy. ed., sex ed., HIV/AIDS drug abuse education, health and safety mandates, and many others.
Did you know that one high needs special ed student costs the school over $50,000 a year? It is not the students fault, it is not the parents fault for sending their special needs kids to school. The service should be provided. There should also be dollars to support that service.
It is also hard to focus on science, math, english, and 21st century learning skills when your having to take time to educate kids on drug safety, sex ed. and passing standardized testing. And since some parents are not taking responsibility for their child's education, schools are being asked to pick up the slack. Schools are doing so without the funding.
Jordan Public schools have done a good job in the past with their budget. The fact that they are one of the 6% of schools that do not receive operating levy dollars is proof of that.
Unfortunately, I do not think Jordan can go very long without passing an operating levy. I foresee larger class sizes, no ability to purchase new books or curriculum, and no tools to keep the students up with the trends in technology and 21st century learning.
Now is a bad time to ask the community to pass an operating levy - that is why I hope the school district does not ask for a large amount of money. Whatever the amount is, I hope the town passes the levy or Jordan students will fall behind.
I could not agree more with your statements goldengopher. It has been the policies of the state government since 2001 that have created the financial difficulties for Minnesota school districts. If you go to http://www.mnsu.edu/ruralmn/pages/Publications/rmj/RMJ2-06/rmj2-06thorso... there is a well written report on this. I have included a small portion of the report below.
"Table 6 shows that after the increase in the General Education
Formula allowance in 2002-03, the state actually froze the formula for both 2003-04 and 2004-05. The effects of this freeze were severe for local school districts. While overall inflation increased over 6% during this period, the costs of employee healthcare and fuel costs rose even more significantly.
Compounding the problem were widespread declining enrollments in Minnesota schools. Table 7 shows the change in enrollments in Minnesota school districts between 2001 and 2005. Over 10% of districts lost 15% or more of their enrollment, while 30% of districts lost over 10% of their enrollment. Over 75% lost at least some enrollment during this period.
Coupled with stagnant per-pupil general education revenues,
these enrollment drops precipitated the need for school districts
to balance their budgets using a combination of steep cuts and
the reinstatement of local levies. The state responded accordingly.
Realizing that state revenues were insufficient to meet the obligation of providing the entire general education costs, the state moved to increase the local levy amounts that would be eligible for equalization."
The Jordan School District has not been financially irresponsible over the years. All school districts will again face financial challenge with flat funding in the current state budget for 2010 and 2011.
I did receive a call and...
Back to page topI did receive a call and participated in the survey. I thought the questions covered a wide range of issues that could affect a person's feeling on supporting a referendum. Some may disagree with the money the district spent on the survey, but the school board's two primary responsibilities are the financial stability of the school district and the achievement of students. In the absence of adequate state funding and given the current economic conditions, they need to take action. This survey will provide them with the information to do just that.
I too was part of the...
Back to page topI too was part of the survey; however, I disagree with your assessment of the value. The questions were posed similar to most political polling where they have a prescribed response they want to achieve. That was the reason they did not allow any answer but Yes or No as far as whether you would be more or less in favor of the referendum. There was no middle ground. I thought they were scare tactics at best to see which questions provided the most opportunity to pass this new tax increase.
While I am all for quality education (as I have four children in the District), I am concerned about the short and long-term effects of passing such an increase when people barely have enough money to pay their bills (if that). Operating levies and recently passed referendums in neighboring Districts have not proven effective in improving the quality of the education received. As recently reported by the state, the test results show that Bell Plaine, Prior Lake-Savage and New Prague were among the 10 worst in proficiency. So how does more money equate to better education? It does not! Many Districts in the state receive far more funding than Jordan on a per pupil basis, but many of those Districts also have some of the poorest scores and highest dropout rates. Money does not equal success!
I believe parents needs to take a more active role in their children’s education, freeing up some of the time the teacher has to spend working with slower learning children. Not every student progresses at the same pace; however, we expect the teachers to teach all students at the same level. Society does not allow the discipline of troubled students and the teachers have to deal with them, while affecting the education the rest of the students should receive. I have volunteered at the schools and I see what it is like within the classrooms. When I went to K-12 school, I dealt with split shifts and large classrooms while still getting a quality education. We had teachers that could discipline a student and take them out of class as necessary. We had Special Education for the students needing extra help, without it affecting the education of the other students. So what has changed? The arguments over more money have been going on for as long as I have been alive and I am sure much longer than that. I can tell you that the problem and the solution starts at home with the parents!
When are we as parents going to start taking responsibility for our children and their education?! This does not have to equate to higher taxes and spending more money in all cases. If I struggled as a child, my parents were there to help me, tutor me, guide me, protect me, and instill a solid foundation of responsibility and self-motivation (you get out of life what you put into it!). I do not see the same culture in society today. I am not judging people in any way; however, society has changed with a lowering of standards in morals, ethics and values. We live in a society that blames everyone and everything else for our problems. This is being taught to children so each new generation has expectations that “they are owed”. Both my wife and I work; however, the minute we get home from work we spend time with the children. During school, that means reviewing homework, helping them study, and simply spending time together as a family. Parents have to take some of the responsibility for their child’s education. The school system is a tool to assist in that process; it is not a replacement for the parent’s involvement.
I am not sure where the...
Back to page topI am not sure where the information came from stating Belle Plaine, New Prague, and Prior Lake are among the worst 10 schools in proficiency in the state. Using the information provided in a spreadsheet by the Minnesota Department of Education, these three school districts were not in the bottom ten. Their results when you combine reading across all the grades tested are:
Prior Lake - top 24 percent in MN
Jordan - top 39 percent in MN
Shakopee - top 45 percent in MN
Bell Plaine - top 54 percent in MN
We also cannot fairly compare the costs of operating a school system in 2009 with those from years ago. The number of unfunded mandates from the federal government has increased, the subsidizing of special education out of local money has needed to increase because of a lack of state and federal resources, the need to prepare students for the 21st century with 21st century technology puts pressure on the system, and an expectation that all students receive additional instruction to meet state standards are just some of the differences.
The Jordan School District is not seeking a referendum because they have this uncontrollable need to spend. They are seeking it because it is the only way they have to raise the revenue necessary to maintain a basic educational program. The need is clear.
Governor Pawlenty has done a good job in convincing people that taxes are bad. Unfortunately, the services they pay for are investments in the future of our communities and the quality of life we want for our children.
The referendum is about more than a tax increase and I hope many people in this community take a deeper look at what it really is for - an investment in our children and the community they live in.
The overall financial...
Back to page topThe overall financial problem in public schools and the reason why each school in the state of Minnesota is asking local taxpayers to pass a referendum is because the legislature is shifting more and more school district funding to the local districts.
Schools are being asked to do more and more each year, and have not been given the finances to keep up. This is called an unfunded mandate. An unfunded mandate is where the state and federal government requires schools to provide certain services, but then does not provide 100% of the funding to do so. Examples of unfunded mandates at JPS are special education, transportation, testing, phy. ed., sex ed., HIV/AIDS drug abuse education, health and safety mandates, and many others.
Did you know that one high needs special ed student costs the school over $50,000 a year? It is not the students fault, it is not the parents fault for sending their special needs kids to school. The service should be provided. There should also be dollars to support that service.
It is also hard to focus on science, math, english, and 21st century learning skills when your having to take time to educate kids on drug safety, sex ed. and passing standardized testing. And since some parents are not taking responsibility for their child's education, schools are being asked to pick up the slack. Schools are doing so without the funding.
Jordan Public schools have done a good job in the past with their budget. The fact that they are one of the 6% of schools that do not receive operating levy dollars is proof of that.
Unfortunately, I do not think Jordan can go very long without passing an operating levy. I foresee larger class sizes, no ability to purchase new books or curriculum, and no tools to keep the students up with the trends in technology and 21st century learning.
Now is a bad time to ask the community to pass an operating levy - that is why I hope the school district does not ask for a large amount of money. Whatever the amount is, I hope the town passes the levy or Jordan students will fall behind.
I could not agree more with...
Back to page topI could not agree more with your statements goldengopher. It has been the policies of the state government since 2001 that have created the financial difficulties for Minnesota school districts. If you go to http://www.mnsu.edu/ruralmn/pages/Publications/rmj/RMJ2-06/rmj2-06thorso... there is a well written report on this. I have included a small portion of the report below.
"Table 6 shows that after the increase in the General Education
Formula allowance in 2002-03, the state actually froze the formula for both 2003-04 and 2004-05. The effects of this freeze were severe for local school districts. While overall inflation increased over 6% during this period, the costs of employee healthcare and fuel costs rose even more significantly.
Compounding the problem were widespread declining enrollments in Minnesota schools. Table 7 shows the change in enrollments in Minnesota school districts between 2001 and 2005. Over 10% of districts lost 15% or more of their enrollment, while 30% of districts lost over 10% of their enrollment. Over 75% lost at least some enrollment during this period.
Coupled with stagnant per-pupil general education revenues,
these enrollment drops precipitated the need for school districts
to balance their budgets using a combination of steep cuts and
the reinstatement of local levies. The state responded accordingly.
Realizing that state revenues were insufficient to meet the obligation of providing the entire general education costs, the state moved to increase the local levy amounts that would be eligible for equalization."
The Jordan School District has not been financially irresponsible over the years. All school districts will again face financial challenge with flat funding in the current state budget for 2010 and 2011.